The Energy of Entrepreneurship with Kristin Rowell

Welcome to the Business Psychic Podcast, the show that helps you ignite your soul’s purpose, turn up your creativity and activate sales and marketing magic. I’m your host, amber Annette, and I’m thrilled to be here with you today to explore the depth of what it means to be a woman in business. I believe that business is more than just making money. It’s about making a difference and making your mark. So sit back, get present and let’s dive in and uncover the secrets to building a business with soul, purpose and magic. Welcome back to another episode of the Business Psychic. I’m Amber Annette, I am your host and you are in for a special ride today. Let me welcome to you today’s guest, kristen Wauwel. She is a functional nutritional therapist and the founder and CEO of Energetically Efficient. She coaches men and women in prioritizing their health and wellness to improve their professional success. But let me tell you that bio just does not do her justice, because there is so much more magic and wisdom and creativity and, believe me, the most high vibe energy I’ve ever been able to connect in with another human being. So, kristen, welcome. We gotta get you a much better bio. That just says how freaking fantastic you are Welcome welcome.

Kristin Rowell: 1:27

Thank you so much for having me, amber, and I appreciate that. Bios are something that you know. I was so used to writing something for the vanilla and factual as a lawyer and then I built this new business and so it’s still unprogramming. I say all of the time. I’m still unprogramming for my old life and reprogramming, so I appreciate that reflection, thank you.

Amber Annette: 1:46

I know, right before we start, right before we hit record, I was like I feel like I have past lives in this life and I say that quite frequently. But for you, like you really do, I mean I feel like, if anything you like, just take us back to kind of the beginning, so kind of where you started, started out as a lawyer, and where you are now, so our audience can just get the gist of, like how cool this journey has been for you, of entrepreneurship. Yes.

Kristin Rowell: 2:13

I’d love to share that Thank you, and one of the things that I always share with people when I start talking about my story is I can now see my story in hindsight, but I had no concept of what was happening to me at the time. So it really, if I take it way back, it’s like I got divorced in 2010. And I started doing Alenon because I had addiction issues in my marriage with my husband, and so that was part of my awakening. And then, because I was such a robot and still like working, working, working as a lawyer to cope with all the pain of my divorce, all of a sudden, in December of 2013, the universe brought me this amazing experience where I fell on ice in Williston, north Dakota, and broke my right leg in 10 places, and that was another huge point in my awakening, because that’s really what got me interested in nutrition. I started to research like wait a second, what could someone who has run all these marathons and who’s very strong and I was lifts weights Like how could I have broken my bone that bad, my bones that bad? And it was my tibia in my right leg, so it’s the main bone that holds your leg together. Of course the right represents the masculine and I was breaking down a lot of my masculine programming so I thought that was interesting, but that really is love the metaphor there. Right, I’m, like, so aware now of things that were always happening for me. One at the time they, of course, felt like they were happening very much to me, so I had that fall in 2013, continued in my lawyering ways, and then, several years later, it happened to be in the fall of 2017. After I ended what I considered to be the last toxic relationship I’ll ever have, I started meditating, and so that’s really what sparked my interest in deeper into nutrition, because I couldn’t ignore the call and the callings that I was having in meditation. It was like little little synchronicity started to happen because I created this regular meditation practice. I really got into it in 2018. And then, as 2018 and early 2019 came and went, I was just noticing things like I’d be in a meeting with clients as a lawyer and all of a sudden, the client would pull me aside and be like, yeah, I’m really interested in losing weight. Do you think you could help me with that? Or I really I noticed you have a lot of energy and I’m interested in having more energy. It was almost as if clients in my new business were presenting themselves to me because they were lining me, of course, on this new path. And so in the summer of 2019, I finally decided to leave the practice of law and start this business, and I’ve been growing it and building it ever since.

Amber Annette: 4:40

Freaking love it. I love like. I love entrepreneurship so much, but I love the people that are entrepreneurial more. You know what I mean and there’s something I wrote down as you were talking which is like the calling. I talk all the time with my clients, with inside my clarity collective micro program. What does the calling feel like for you? Because I watch so many women struggle with this. I think a lot of times they think it’s gonna be this like big, booming voice from the sky where God’s like saying this is your calling and in reality, what it you know like. For me, it just started. It can just be these like little subtle drops. You know Like if you’ve ever listened to Steve Jobs’ commencement speech, he talks about callings being like these dots that were always connecting. But like best, I listened to it probably a few times a year because if you haven’t ever listened to Steve Jobs’ commencement speech, but anyway. So what does the calling? What did it feel like for you? Like I want you to physically describe it and like emotionally describe it, because I think it’s so important that everybody is calling, feels and sounds a little bit different when it shows up for them.

Kristin Rowell: 5:54

It’s so true and one of the things just to frame it also for your listeners, because I’d say this is very true for my clients and maybe yours as well Before I started meditating, there’s no way, I don’t care how hard the universe was trying to get my attention, there’s no way I would have heard it, seen it, felt it, known it, because I was so on robot lawyer mode, going a thousand miles an hour all the time. So one of the biggest things that I think it’s important for people to just really hear and tune into is we have to allow that time for us to be still. And if you’re like, oh, I’m someone who doesn’t meditate, you know you probably need to do it more. But even just getting still with yourself and not constantly being inundated with so much information all the time and so much doing, was like one of my big things. So for me, in terms of what it felt like and what it like physically looked like it was I talk about this poll, which I know sounds like sort of esoteric, like what does that mean? But I had this insane interest in learning about reading, about talking with people, about everything related to nutrition and fitness that all of a sudden became more than just like something I do outside of work. It became something I really was, spending every single amount of my free time. How can I just learn more about this? It was something that lit me up when I would think about it, talk about it, and they say and I’m sure you know you say this as well. I always say now it’s like I figured out what I love to do and then I figured out how to get paid for it, you know, which is like the ultimate entrepreneur.

Amber Annette: 7:29

Lean into it. Getting paid for bringing your gifts to the world absolutely yes. It’s like it really lights you up, and then that brings with it this whole other ball of insecurities and concerns. I feel so grateful that selling your gifts is definitely a skill. You have to be skilled, in my opinion, in sales if you are going to be a successful entrepreneur, and no matter how gifted you are, having the gift of being able to sell is just going to maximize your ability to be in your gift.

Kristin Rowell: 8:16

Yeah, and just once you’re in your gift, I feel like it pours out of you. So for me I just when you asked about the emotion it’s like when I think about when I’ve had a conference around nutrition, when I’m listening to a podcast about nutrition, when I’m talking to someone about it I’m feeling joy, I’m feeling lit up, I’m feeling excited, I’m feeling in flow, I’m feeling easeful, I’m feeling safe in my nervous system. All of those things make me excited. I don’t get the Sunday scaries like I used to when I was clearing. Oh yeah, and let me be very clear like I loved lawyering, I loved it, yeah. And then what happened as I started meditating is I realized that I evolved out of it and I don’t think, as humans, enough people really pause and realize we are meant to evolve. I know that it’s a very pysy and model thing to be born, go to school, learn a bunch of stuff, get married, have 2.5 kids, get a job and keep you know at that same job until you retire and then you die, like it’s such a linear way of living and we’re just so out of that model now. And so when we evolve, it’s like, oh my God, I actually what. I’m going to have a phase two career. Are you kidding me? And how exciting. Maybe someday in my 70s I’ll have a phase three. I don’t know. But it was just exciting that I was feeling this excitement, joy and fulfillment. Really, that’s really what I was feeling when it came to anything that came to nutrition. I just loved it. And then my mom reminded me which I always think this is so fun to think of, like past stuff. She said you know, do you remember that you wrote in the high school yearbook that you were going to at some point have some sort of healthy smoothie shop or something with one of your friends, like someday? Oh, my gosh, I’m kidding me. So you know, when you strip away the parental programming, the societal conditioning or the cultural condition, all of that stuff, it’s like who did I really come here to be and what really lights my soul up, and when you start to go down that path of figuring it out, there’s nothing more rewarding.

Amber Annette: 10:16

And I think it’s so interesting. You’re bringing up like things from our childhood, right, like I can remember being little, little like probably four years old maybe, or young, like three, four or five years old, and I would set up all of my like stuffed animals and my Barbies and my toys in a row, like I would put them all in a row like they were in seats, like in an auditorium, and then I would get my like fake microphone whatever I was pretending was my microphone and I would stand up on the coffee table and who knows what I was like talking to them about or singing to them about or whatever. You know, when you’re a little kid and you’re full of creativity like that. But I literally still to this day can remember like being so passionate and like having something just like ready to go, and those things are important that we remember. I personally feel like at that age we are still so like literally the word just I didn’t even mean to say it but like soul connected. We’re still connected to like that bigger reason and that bigger purpose why we’re here, why we came here, and you know I use this great analogy I’m sure you’ve probably heard it A lot of times people talk about. You know, in relationships, people that come in and out of your life, like having a reason, a season and a lifetime. And I’ve been saying lately, it’s the same with your purpose. We have multiple sole purposes that we are here to experience and they are here for a reason, a season and some of them a lifetime. And so, like when I think of you and being, you know, being that lawyer and being that badass woman in business, and like taking what is it? Like kicking ass, taking names right, that served a purpose Absolutely Before a season. It was for a season.

Kristin Rowell: 12:12

Yes, you’re absolutely right, and I loved it when I did it, like I really enjoyed it and so I was thriving to it. I did it for 16 years. It’s not like I was in for a few years and walked out and I really, when I left, like the day I left the practice of law, it was Friday, june 7 of 2019. I sobbed most of the day. I cried with my partners. I went to a girlfriend’s birthday that night. A bunch of my girlfriends were there and I spent a whole entire party crying. I was so sad about what was, you know, both the end of an era but the start of something so exciting and new, and I was excited about that. But I also was grieving the loss of this significant part of my identity and what brought me joy for so many years until it didn’t you know, until I knew I’m being asked by the universe to serve in this bigger, higher way. And now I have so many lawyers, accountants, like a lot of professionals who are my old colleagues, as clients, because they realize I can understand the demands of time in their work and so I can help you know work with them and nutrition and lifestyle practices that will work for them. They know that I get them, but also because they understand that I really have figured out this way to prioritize kind of what matters and let the work be an ancillary part of who I was while I was doing it. You know. Well done, thank you. Thank you, it’s been a really fun journey. Entrepreneurship and I’m sure because you’ve been in it much longer than I have it’s something I never thought I’d sign up for. I mean, in some ways, when you’re building a book of business as a lawyer, you are your own little entrepreneur because you’re cranking in new clients and cases and helping to build a law firm, for sure, but you also have the safety of other lawyers and colleagues with you. And when you go out on your own and you do this, it is like, okay, I am betting on me. And I think one of the questions that I’ve gotten most often since I chose to leave was were you scared? Was it scary? Did you have a lot of fear around it? And the truthful, truthful answer, amber, is that I didn’t. Now, maybe it was because I have, you know, some amount of naivety when it comes to building a business, but it really was this unwavering confidence and belief in myself and I thought, as long as I bet on myself, I can’t go wrong. And I genuinely believed that. And it also so happened that I left in June of 2019, and I always say then the world shut down about nine months later and everyone wanted to start getting healthy, because everyone was. You know, things were going to hell in a handbasket during COVID.

Amber Annette: 14:39

The universe knows what it’s doing with timing.

Kristin Rowell: 14:41

let me tell you it sure does, and so I just trusted in that and I could not get over how aligned everything was. It was really, really, really great. And then, because I was an equity owner in my firm, they had to buy me out over a period of time and so I also had this sort of gentle ramp up where I was getting paid, I mean not a lot of money, but a little bit of money for the for the few years after I left, and so that just helped sort of even everything out. It just worked out really nicely in terms of being able to build my business with that safety net. It was nice.

Amber Annette: 15:11

Yeah, I, there’s like that. What is it like? The golden parachute? You know, it’s like it’s almost like the universe. The universe will like provide and when it comes to, you know, I and I get it like. And now that there haven’t been times, I mean I think we all experienced like some moments right of hesitation or overthinking. I think there are more moments for me now, as an entrepreneur, where I can overthink things versus like getting really scared or fearful or worried. But one of the things that I always think of and I work with a lot of newer entrepreneurs and I always say to them the only plan B we have is to believe deeper. That’s, that’s our only plan B. We don’t you know like when, whenever people are like oh, maybe I need to know, we’re not, we’re not looking for a job, we’re going to believe even deeper. Now you’re being invited to go even deeper into your even even deeper, like that’s when you dig down.

Kristin Rowell: 16:13

In those moments you know like I love that you said that, because one of the things I’ve toyed with recently is just last summer of 2022. What year we in? Yeah, 2022 is when my three year license came up for a lawyering and so I did all my CEs and I renewed my license, and now I have another three year period that I’m in before I would renew again and I’m saying to myself, my goodness, renew it. You know, it’s just so interesting because I wasn’t renewing it as a backstop. I never have thought, oh, I’m going to run back into the practice of law. It was more about it’s, more about am I ready to let go of that part of my identity and it’s you have so many ego deaths in the journey of spirituality and in the becoming who you truly are that, like you know, there’s even a motion for me around thinking of letting it go. It’s like, oh, what are you without that title or without that? You know, it’s so crazy.

Amber Annette: 17:06

I say again, right before we have done here. We were talking about writing and one of the things that I think probably that I have wrote that I’m most proud of is a message about saying goodbye and that the hardest goodbye and that saying goodbye in general as a human being is one of the hardest things we ever do. But in my personal journey and experience and the women that I work with, it’s saying goodbye to past versions of ourself. That is the hardest. Who we used to be. I’ve shared recently and I don’t even know if you maybe know this, kristen, but I’m in the middle of a divorce and saying goodbye to this version of me of being married and the family and holidays oh my gosh things. It’s just saying goodbye to who she was and I’m so appreciative of who I was and how she got me to where I am now. But it is for me, it’s the hardest part of life.

Kristin Rowell: 18:02

It’s saying goodbye, and I think it’s such a good thing to just pause and reflect on that. No matter what sort of things you go through in life, whether you stay married, whether you get divorced which I’ve obviously been divorced, which is a very painful part of my life as well, and I was letting go of the married Kristen as opposed to the single, divorced Kristen All of those iterations of us are bringing us to this higher and better version of ourselves that feels so scary to be out on this limb, like trying to explore and who is she and discovering her, but it’s also so rewarding. I do a lot of I host retreats, but I also go on a lot of spiritual retreats and spend time in meditation and cool parts of the planet, sort of diving deep. I was recently in Peru and Bolivia doing just that which was a part of the world I’d never been to and yeah and so just having those times and spaces and places carved out of my calendar to just kind of be and surrender and just discover and be in this mystical unfolding of who I’m becoming in this enough season like we talked about season of life, because I can very much feel like I’m in this transition phase right now and I don’t even know if I can speak about it more eloquently than that to say I’m in the middle of some deep transition and I don’t really know what that means, but I just know that I’m in it and I’m curious what the universe is gonna show me in terms of what I’m evolving into.

Amber Annette: 19:24

And I think what if I had to summarize, I think, what you’re saying and what I’m feeling from it? It’s you know, you’re also following your intuition in these decisions and I reached and maybe you reached this in your divorce or I reached this point in lots of things in making decisions honestly. And when I just follow my intuition and I make a decision, it makes me looking at that end result so much easier, because I mean there have been times where I’m like, okay, my intuition and the universe would not have brought me this far. To just be like just kidding, you made the wrong choice, like you know, like psych yes, we were just messing with you the whole time. You missed that right turn about a year ago. You know it’s, you’re into those intuitive decisions. That inner knowing is never going to lead you to a place that you’re not meant to be. It’s just, it’s not gonna happen. And there are moments like that where I mean I am just so and it’s why I do what I do. I love helping women steal and own their inner knowing, because then you never I shouldn’t say I never doubt Like, never is a strong word Like, let’s be honest. I mean there are moments right, but in those moments it’s a flicker. It’s a flicker versus an indecisive paralyzing point, you know, which could have happened and did happen to me a long time ago, before really honoring that inner knowing and listening to the universe. And we have to be able to all recognize that for what it is and it shows up. I think that’s where maybe most people can get confused as it shows up in so many different ways. It can show up as like a mess I mean, how many you know this is for you and for my audience but, like, have you ever had somebody come to you and be like I don’t know? I just feel like I need to share this with you. Yes, I don’t. When somebody says that to me, you can better believe that I know the universe is working through them to give me a message. I welcome it, welcome it. Or you know, I think you know, like the like, there are signs and synchronicities for all of us everywhere, and it’s being able to recognize it in the moment for what it is for us as an individual. Sure, there are signs for the collective right, like we’ve all kind of like summarized and said okay, if we see 11, 11, and we know it’s a spiritual number, like these, like three through three or two, right, like those are cool things. But there’s also those really individualized signs and synchronicities that the universe is giving to us all the time with one reason and it’s to say keep going, girl, it’s just, it’s just. They’re everywhere and I’m so grateful that I see them and honor them and embody them. And I’ve just made it my purpose and I know it’s part of your purpose too to help other people see them for what they are and to honor them.

Kristin Rowell: 22:22

It’s so true and the thing is it requires that actually paying attention and being aware and just kind of noting this being present, being present, exactly so being present is the key. The day that I was notifying my senior partner, who I was very close with still in close with the day I was notifying that him that I was leaving the firm. You know, one of the way that my spirit guides on the other side show up for me is in number sequences, it’s like but now how many? And for me it typically happens on license plates, but it can happen all sorts of places. So I made I ended up making a voice note about it on my phone, because I was so overwhelmed with gratitude to them about, on the day that I was going to notify the firm that I was leaving, how many number sequences I saw from the moment I woke up. I mean to like how many emails were in my trash, how many emails were in my inbox, how many all sorts of things I could. They were all around me all day and I thought, okay, thank you for reminding me I’m on the right path. Thank you for reminding me I’m on the right path. It was like a confirmation for me that this was the day I was supposed to do it and that once I released that message, I would just feel this huge weight off my shoulders and know that I was getting closer and closer and closer to my new aligned purpose, which was just so rewarding, so rewarding.

Amber Annette: 23:36

I remember giving my notice to and now how I say it is very different from like what I was like thinking and feeling in the moment, but I remember. So I worked in the financial services industry for about 15 years and I think you might have known that and I remember like this had I had just got my like dream role, like just got it, had just been given a pay raise. That’s like the most money I’d ever made before. I mean I’m talking within weeks and at the same time all of that was happening, I was like ready to go full on being a psychic medium around. You know, doing psychic. I was still doing a lot of psychic mediumship, but I really wanted to be a business psychic, like I knew it. And I remember sitting at this desk and I can’t remember it was like alone, I needed to. It was like something was lending and I was you guys can’t see me, but I remember like I wanted to like pound my head on this desk Like I was slumped over, I felt dead. I literally felt dead. I had zero energy and I just remember sitting there, going. I just want to be working on my business, like it was just so clear to me and I was at the time, you know, breadwinner of my family, four kids, a daughter about to go to college, like like Riker I think at the time, was like oh my gosh, like not even a year old. You know how am I supposed to like give up this like multi, six figures, like all the things. I was like, holy shit, how am I going to do this? And I’ll never remember or I’ll never forget this and I still do this with my clients this day. I looked at it from a time perspective. I was like I’m spending 55 to 60 hours a week driving here, working here, not to mention the sun suns I used to call it sun ziety, where Sunday I had such high anxiety about having to go to work on my sun ziety. So like I was like if I had 60 hours a week to devote to my business, could I replace my income. And I remember just like perking up at my desk and being like I can do this, like I just this wave of like I can do this, I’m meant for this and I didn’t even, I don’t even think I gave, I think I gave a two week notice, but I didn’t even stay the full two weeks. I ended up going within like 10 days of giving my notice because I just I couldn’t wait to be on my calling, oh and.

Kristin Rowell: 25:58

I I love that, and one of the things I heard you say, Amber, which is like so good for people to hear, is that sun ziety, like Sunday scary is the anxiety that you get on Sunday To me. Now I understand it more, as it’s really a sign that you’re out of alignment with your purpose. Oh, heartedly Right. It’s more than just a funny thing that there are memes about on the internet and people laugh about it.

Amber Annette: 26:23

It’s like no, what’s actually happening is you’re out of alignment and that’s why you feel those feelings in your body and don’t ignore those feelings Like that’s even more the feelings are the only sign you need honestly Like that and don’t get me wrong like I love me a good license plate, I love looking at the clock and seeing it’s 11-11. I love it like white feathers are freaking, flying around me all day long, every day, and I know that the emotion I’m feeling is the only sign I actually really, really need. Yeah, it’s so important. It tells you everything you need to know about what is good, right and aligned it does.

Kristin Rowell: 27:03

And so for me, when I go back to the fact that I was towards in 2010,. At the time, I literally had no access to my emotions. I had grown up in a home where it’s it’s. Everything was positive, we didn’t have negative emotions, we didn’t have conflict, we didn’t. And what I realize now is that I had this model from parents where there wasn’t access to their emotions, and so I didn’t have it, and so I had to spend this journey getting divorced at the age of 35. This journey in my 30s and therapy, like literally trying to figure out what I was feeling and then be able to speak about it and then move through it. So, like my journey included this whole part about wait. What am I actually feeling in my body? Do I feel scared? Do I feel confused? Do I feel lit up with excitement? Do you know? And it was just a journey, because you’re right, your emotions are such an important guide in terms of where you are at with your purpose.

Amber Annette: 27:56

Yeah, oh, so good. Well, speaking of purpose, I want you to talk a little bit about your new book that you just released, which I’m super excited for share with us, and congratulations. I’m always so in freaking awe of authors. I am, I’m like always, no matter, like if it’s a New York Times bestseller or if it’s literally like a self published on Amazon. Like I am like, I am in awe at authors because it is to me. It has been the biggest, the biggest obstacle and the biggest challenge I have ever. I haven’t overcome it yet. To be very like, I get super close and I just can’t hit publish. So well done that. You hit publish, girl.

Kristin Rowell: 28:39

Tell us about it, thank you so much it was a labor of love. Over the course of over here, I naively thought I will throw this cookbook together, I’ll be able to get it out by the end of the year, in 2022. And I was just so unaware of the depth of the process that it would take. But it was a really fun journey to go through and so I did decide to. My sister owns her own publishing company called Rodney K Press, so I hired her to take me through the whole publishing process. I had done all the photos for the cookbook in the summer of 2022, and had written all the recipes, and then it really literally from the fall of 2022, when I hosted a launch party and had such a fun time like excited that I might have it ready for Christmas. It actually didn’t come out until this September of 2023, because there’s so much editing and designing and all this stuff that I just was unaware of. But I remember when I saw the first draft of the book online, of course, before I ordered my own and it was like this is the sexiest cookbook I’ve ever seen. That’s amazing. It was amazing. So the designers did such a fantastic job just helping hone into my vision and have it consistent with my energetically efficient brand. My whole intention writing the cookbook was I wanted a resource for people who feel really overwhelmed with all the nutrition information out there to say, okay, I’m a super busy professional, but I also want to eat well, and so what are some things I can do, Like here’s something I might make when I have more time on a Sunday. Here’s something I might have when it’s like middle of the day on Thursday and I have to just grab something quick. It’s got a lot of recipes at a lot of different levels to meet people where they’re at, and so I have a whole section of the book that talks about what eating efficiently means, what eating efficiently is not how to eat for balanced blood sugar, and my whole intention around it is really helping people take control of their health and show them that it is not hard to eat nutritionally. It’s just a little bit of a learning a new language in the beginning.

Amber Annette: 30:33

Oh I well, I’m definitely, I’m ordering. I want to sign copy. First of all, I will give you a sign copy.

Kristin Rowell: 30:42

And what’s fun is it was released when I was on a retreat, when my business mastermind, I, was retreating Tuscany when it got released and in less than 48 hours it was a number one a seller on Amazon and a number one new release on Amazon, which was so exciting.

Amber Annette: 30:57

So congratulations, that’s amazing Well done.

Kristin Rowell: 31:01

Thank you. It was so fun, so I’m going to obviously do some more promotional stuff about it for the holidays, because I think it’s a great gift to give for the holidays. And, of course, amazon can ship to someone directly for you, so it’s really fun.

Amber Annette: 31:12

And we’ll make sure to put the link in the show notes. So if you’re listening and you want to grab Kristen’s cookbook, definitely go check out the show notes, and I know we have. You have a great free gift for everybody too, that we’ll put the link there for so they can be on your newsletter and get your, get your energy in the form of an email as well, absolutely. And what else do you want to share? Anything else?

Kristin Rowell: 31:37

The only other thing I think that would be helpful for people if they’re interested in this ever is one thing I run quarterly, which I just personally it’s like a huge passion of mine is running this two weeks nutritional detoxification, or cleanse. And a lot of people think of the word cleanse and they’re like, oh my God, is that a juice fast? I don’t want to only drink juice. The answer is no, it’s a ton of real food. In fact, a lot of people who are in my course are like Wait, I really have to eat this much food and you expect me to like have a flatter tummy and lose weight and have more energy and whatever. And I’m like, yes, this is the magic of a cleanse. So I I share about that on my social media, I share about that in email releases, of course, but I’m just finishing my fall cleanse right now myself, and so it’s just been a really powerful two weeks. That ends up, you know, having my skin feel really good, giving me a ton of energy. I sleep so much better and love doing it over Halloween because that prevents me from eating any of the candy Otherwise it’s like I told like it’s pretty bad when you tell your kid to hide the candy bag from you. I was like, oh, my niece and nephew and I was like, okay, so, auntie, just kind of likes like Reese’s are my favorite, can I just have one? And then they both want to give me one. So I’ve got like this candy stash in my cupboard that I’ll have at some point. Yes, so that’s just another offering that I have. It’s kind of one of my lower level entry offer, entry level offerings that I like to tell people about because it’s a very, very powerful course.

Amber Annette: 32:54

Yeah, I know for myself I’ve always kind of struggled like up and down with my weight like, but especially being in the last 10 years as an entrepreneur, you know, like I’m sitting at my desk right now, like I’m at my desk I’m like nutrition needs to be optimal because of how much movement I kind of don’t get in the day. And I think for me and I know a lot of the women that I know that kind of struggle with this it’s like the consistency you know, staying consistent with the meal prep and the food and the menu, and like if you had to give somebody a tip and are around like consistency, what would? What would that be?

Kristin Rowell: 33:32

Yeah, great question. So I know it can seem overwhelming to be like, oh my God, do I have to do this? Like meal prepping and all this stuff for the rest of my life and even for me who’s in this world? Like it gets annoying for me. Sometimes all everyone’s will call my sister and be like I just want someone else to make me dinner tonight. You know, yeah, just like go and sit somewhere at a restaurant and have someone make me dinner because everyone’s well, it just feels super overwhelming and then I really just in those moments say, okay, fine, I’m going to go get a healthy meal. Like I’ll go to, like I’ll go to towel natural foods in Minneapolis, or I’ll go I’ll get like a healthy meal or a steakhouse and get a steak. But I’d say, for consistency, a couple of things. Number one is I think that people underestimate the importance of staying hydrated during the day. It’s just drinking that water. I’m honest to God, you guys like 75% of the time I’ve read this exact, check me on it if you want but it’s something like 75% of the time we think we’re hungry, we’re actually thirsty. So it’s like every time I tell my clients, when you think you’re hungry or you find yourself kind of doing some of that emotional board eating, just go drink a big glass of water and wait for about 10 minutes and see if you’re still hungry. It honestly will usually pass because you really need more water. So that’s one thing. And then number two is I always say set aside, it does not have to be the same date and time every week, but just say what day this week am I going to focus on doing some sort of meal prep, grocery shopping and meal prep. You know just where I’m making like, and I don’t mean like you have to make a full recipe. I mean I’m going to heat up a bunch of grass-fed ground beef in the skillet and then I’m going to save that in the fridge so that if I have only half an hour between meetings, I can heat that up with, like, some broccoli and put an avocado on it and that’s a meal, something that simple. Done I have. I have cooked meat or friend or fish in my fridge all the time that I just used for the next couple of days, and then I might make some more and use them for the next couple of days. So I think, biting off things in little chunks, like just think of what protein can I have available, and then I can build a meal around that protein, because otherwise we all get in the point where we’re like, oh, I have a really short break right now, but I’m really hungry and now I’m just going to grab that protein bar, I’m going to eat those chips. It’s like we reach for things that are just the easy, quick thing. Quick things, yeah and I know the saying is annoying, but it is true Fail the perfect thing. It’s like your psychic.

Amber Annette: 35:50

I literally grabbed a protein bar right before this call and I was like, oh my gosh, I have to like, get, but it would have been much better if I would have had a chicken breast ready to just eat quickly or like, and I love protein bars as much as the next girl, so, trust me, I use them too on occasion.

Kristin Rowell: 36:11

But I tell my clients when you find yourself like, oh, now I had two protein bars today. I had one client at one point she was eating three protein bars a day and I said this isn’t food. We need to get you back to actually be real food. And this is why I do this cleanse every quarter, because it forces me to start eating vegetables and everything again. When I get off track and all of a sudden I’m like, oh, all your foods came from a package today, it’s like, of course, correct. And that’s why I do it every quarter, because it just it makes me be like OK, it doesn’t take that long to chop some onion, to chop some garlic. I can listen to a podcast while I do it. It actually can be very swarming for my central nervous system. It’s a break from work.

Amber Annette: 36:50

If you look at it sort of with a different attitude and feel like it’s me time, I feel like it’s self-care time, it becomes more fun and then I can just play with it you know, I love that you’re saying that, because one of the conversations I was just having with myself was around working out, and this is for probably the best reasons and the not so great of reasons why I do this. But I always want to be working in my business or on my business. I either want to be creating content, recording a podcast, I want to be writing, I want to be putting stuff out on social Like. I am obsessed in the best way possible with being in my purpose. I love it, and it often keeps me from doing the things like working out, meal, all of those things. So I was like, how can I incorporate, how can I do this? How can I incorporate working out and my business? And I was like, well, what if I just sit on the bike, even? And what if I go live? Like, what if I did like workout, readings, Like I can be like you know what I mean? Like just go live. It’s not like I’m going to be working out to the point where I’m like can’t breathe, Like I’m not the girl, I’m not that girl. But I was like, well, what if I just I mean, people do get ready with me. You know All those kinds of things I was like well, what if I just work out and channel at the same time?

Kristin Rowell: 38:14

Why not Totally? And you could go on a walk outside and channel and be on your phone talking while you’re also moving. Yeah, I’m like it’s cold, that’s true, I mean I have this great setup in my home of like.

Amber Annette: 38:27

I have a great stationery bike, I have everything like you could possibly. It’s like it’s the do it, it’s the starting, it’s the doing it.

Kristin Rowell: 38:35

You know, because when I do workout, I love it, I enjoy it, and the other thing is just to kind of reframe it too. It’s like you are so obsessed with your business, which is so amazing, and you’re so lucky that you love it that much and you love working, and my question for you would be what if focusing on the workout piece a little bit and the nutrition piece made you even better at what you?

Amber Annette: 38:55

do, it does, oh for sure, I know it does.

Kristin Rowell: 38:58

It does, yeah, it does. I tell clients that all the time I’m like you’re going to get better at what you do, because you’re going to have more energy, you’re going to be in a better mood. All of it is related.

Amber Annette: 39:08

Yeah, I mean I’m just. I mean I’m sitting here having all kinds of ideas. Now I’m like, well, what about when I was cooking? I mean I could literally do dinner in a medium. You know, like, do a Facebook live dinner in a medium? I’m cooking dinner. Ask me any of your questions, because, if you think about it, cooking definitely pulls you present. It’s a. To me, cooking is always a form of meditation. You know, like working out moving meditation, absolutely. So maybe I just need to like reframe this a little bit. I’ll. If I do this, I’m going to tag you in it so you can be like yeah, girl, there you go. We talked about this on the podcast.

Kristin Rowell: 39:44

Please do I love that. No, I love that Because the reality is it is a form of meditation in both ways and it really brings you into your body. So you’re very present in present moment time, and I think that’s one of the reasons I love working out so much and I love cooking is because I get in present moment time in those spots.

Amber Annette: 40:02

Yeah, I got the wheels spinning here, so thank you for that and I am just so appreciative of you being on the show. So now, I don’t know if you a lot, it’s so fun, like a lot of my guests. I don’t know if you’ve listened to the podcast or not, but do you know what happens now in this part of the show? I don’t know what happens now. Ah, surprise, yay, yes, all right. So in true the business psychic fashion, here’s what’s going to happen. I’m going to tap in here and I’m going to give you a business reading and we’re coming at the end of 2023, going into 2024. So I’m going to give you a couple things just that I kind of sense and see and pick up on, and I’ll share that with you. And then I have a super important question that I will close out our episode with, and it’s like my favorite, favorite part. So I’m just going to tap in here, ok. So two things. First thing that comes up immediately it’s time to get on the.

Kristin Rowell: 40:58

TEDx stage. Oh my gosh, I love that you’re saying that it literally was one of my things for my intentions. I literally have written that down as what I want.

Amber Annette: 41:07

Yes, it’s happening. It’s time. I feel like, absolutely. It’s 2024. The calendar is slipping between the month of October and November. So if I were you, I would definitely right now, just start visualizing, standing on that stage, what you’re going to wear by the outfit, watch more TEDx talks and YouTube. I feel like there’s an opportunity for you to go viral on YouTube. I don’t know if you have been thinking about doing your own podcast. I’m going to say don’t do a podcast, but do a really good, juicy YouTube channel. Anything about that, show up for you.

Kristin Rowell: 41:50

Yes, I just started a YouTube channel this year and I haven’t did a ton yet. But that was also my intuition, was, I think, because I’m so good on video. It’s better and you’re stunning, like absolutely stunning.

Amber Annette: 42:03

Of course, you need to be on video.

Kristin Rowell: 42:05

Well, I was thinking that that’s the thing I really want to build, and I had talked about a podcast a few years ago, but it just hasn’t felt aligned. I agree, yes, and I’ve been learning. I have to be on other people’s podcasts and then I have to build out a YouTube, so that’s very aligned. Yes, amber, yes.

Amber Annette: 42:20

I love that. Ok, the other thing that I’m seeing for you and this is on a personal level I’m seeing a for sale sign. Are you thinking about moving?

Kristin Rowell: 42:30

Yes, I’m thinking about. That’s so weird. Now I’m thinking about moving, but I was going to keep my house and I was thinking about maybe renting it out for an Airbnb, but I am thinking about moving, which is so bananas. You and I have not talked about that at all, Of course not.

Amber Annette: 42:46

Yeah, this feels really aligned. I get the month of March. I think by March you’re going to really know you’re going to have that knowing. I also see a lot more time at a beach, so I don’t know if you were thinking about renting or snow birding or something like near a beach or if that’s like a Minnesota lake I’m seeing, but it feels much warmer than Minnesota and for our audience me and Kristen are both from Minnesota and it is starting to get real damn cold here.

Kristin Rowell: 43:18

Yes, yes. Well, I will say, later this month I am going to Cabo, so I will be by a beach Perfect, which is so fun, and I’m going to be with my sister, which will be amazing.

Amber Annette: 43:29

Yeah, I feel also like the OK, so I think they’re two separate things. So I think by March you’re going to know where you’re moving to. I do like the idea of keeping your existing space, renting it out, getting some additional income from that. So I love that. This beach, this trip there’s something quite significant that happens. I feel like this year has been a lot of anticipation around what’s next and not having a super clear vision. But knowing that you’re just following and you’re keep going, you’re going to have a radical moment of clarity on this upcoming beach trip. There’s a reason that the universe was showing me that beach absolutely, and it’s going to be something that you did not think it’s going to be like, didn’t see that coming almost like a plot twist. So there’s something definitely about that beach trip for the two of you that’s going to awaken something.

Kristin Rowell: 44:24

So, exciting.

Amber Annette: 44:27

Also, I see a follow up. I see a second follow up cookbook, except this one’s going to have less recipes on food and more recipes Like you can hear my like I couldn’t even. It’s like life recipes. It’s more of like ingredients for an energetically efficient life versus just the nutritional side of things. So anything about that resonate for you.

Kristin Rowell: 44:55

Well, yes, I mean, it’s almost like taking the book that I just wrote and creating a book. So I really desire to write like a bigger book outside of a cookbook, and this would be a way to sort of dovetail off of what I did, but be sharing stuff that’s outside of the nutrition space and how I’m broadening into what I’m doing with energy. Yes, it very much resonates.

Amber Annette: 45:16

Yeah, I think you’ll work on that in 2024, probably not release it till June 2025. It’s kind of like time frame that I’m kind of picking up on there for you. Ok, well, all right, ready for the question.

Kristin Rowell: 45:36

I am ready for the question.

Amber Annette: 45:39

If you could connect to anybody in spirit and receive a message from them, who would it be?

Kristin Rowell: 45:47

It would be my maternal grandmother. Her name was Dorothy. It would be her, and to receive a message from her.

Amber Annette: 45:59

So and this is pretty so, I talk about like having a psychic library a lot, and one of the very most common images that I get from a maternal grandmother is a rose, but I feel like this is like significant anyway for her. Did she really love her garden and love gardening and flowers? Was she quite feminine like that?

Kristin Rowell: 46:23

She was very feminine, she loved flowers. She really loved butterflies, which was interesting.

Amber Annette: 46:28

So butterflies and flowers for sure yes, so the butterflies you’re assigned from her. And now was she. I wanna say she feels like dainty to me. Does that match her? She feels like I see her with almost like this little card again over her shoulders. I see her with a string of pearls I don’t know if you remember that from her or with her, but they feel like they were just one of, like this necklace that she’s pointing me out to feels just like it was something very precious and very sacred to her.

Kristin Rowell: 46:59

Anything about that Resonate I don’t know whether she had a necklace that was particularly special, but I definitely would describe her as dainty. I was always obsessed with her hands and her fingers. They were so feminine and she had beautiful fingernails.

Amber Annette: 47:13

So, yes, and now I also feel like with her she had a very strong faith. Is that accurate? Yes, we did, was she? She must have been like Christian or Catholic possibly, and Lutheran and Lutheran okay, and it’s sometimes hard to tell between like.

Kristin Rowell: 47:35

But I could doubt. Yeah, I say it’s always Catholicism without all the Mary, all the Mary.

Amber Annette: 47:42

Yeah, that’s great. I just I get that image of the cross from her, which when I get that image, that’s usually somebody’s telling me that they were Christian and they had a strong faith in belief and as, oh, she’s so happy to be connected in this moment. Just, she loved, she kind of does this, she takes her hands to like the face and she’s just like she loved her girls.

Kristin Rowell: 48:06

She always did girls. She always did girls. So much.

Amber Annette: 48:11

And she knows your mother misses her tremendously. She, your mom, still it feels like talks to her almost every day. Now I know you said butterfly, but she tells me it’s like this image of a hummingbird. Do you know if your mom gets images of a hummingbird or hummingbird?

Kristin Rowell: 48:27

from her. Yes, I know that hummingbird was one of their things, for sure, along with Cardinals, but they loved hummingbirds. We at one point in our childhood home, I think, had like a hummingbird feeder, which is interesting to have a hummingbird come around, and she may have also had one of those as well.

Amber Annette: 48:43

Yeah, she’s very present around your family. Do you have a younger niece? Do you have a niece? Yes, I have. Did she take on part of her name?

Kristin Rowell: 48:57

Yes, she did. Lucy made a double name.

Amber Annette: 49:00

Yes, she just said, she just thought that was so sweet. She just she couldn’t make. She’s almost just like. I can’t believe that you would give my you know, like my name would carry on like that. She was just very proud of that, very honored with that. So just a very loving, I mean like just such a beautiful loving spirit comes from her for you and for your whole family, and she is with all of you. Thank you so much, that’s beautiful. You’re so welcome. Oh, I love that, thank you.

Kristin Rowell: 49:35

I feel so connected to her now.

Amber Annette: 49:38

Oh well, I have just loved this episode with you. Kristin, you’re gonna have to come back on. You’re gonna have to update us on all of those things I can’t wait to hear about the move, the next book, the beach girl. You’re on fire. I am so just excited for you and this next step in your journey and for being here with me today.

Kristin Rowell: 49:57

So Thank you so much, amber. I really really enjoyed our time together. This was awesome.

Amber Annette: 50:02

Yes, it was so wonderful. And to all of my listeners, thank you for being here too, and until our next episode, hey, I want you to go see a sign today, and Kristin’s grandmother came forward and had this beautiful image of a hummingbird and I’m gonna just send that to you as well. My invitation is that you go connect with spirit and see the image of a hummingbird and just feel that extra magic that the universe can send your way. So until next episode, go see your sign, go be in your magic and thank you for being here. See you soon. Thanks for listening to this episode. I hope it inspired and ignited your entrepreneurial spirit, in turn of your intuition and trust in the universe. Make sure to check out the show notes section for access to my transformation suite All of free resources, tools and content to help you grow your business while staying true to your soul’s purpose. Until next week, go make some business magic soul sister.